I really appreciate your website, your keen insights, and all your help. It cuts great and is built to last way more than 20 years. I really like the cut of the fabricated deck on the Toro MyRide. Its only $300 more than the MX5075 but you get a whole lot more mower. I expect the Deere will be up to that task. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Agri-Fab 44 in. Thank you so much Paul. Gravely ZT XL 52: $4200 Appreciate it. Which models might you suggest? I also like the toro my ride and ariens ikon x john deere and cub cadet ultima. Thanks. My second choice is either the Toro or Cub Cadet 50 inch. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed is over your budget. I got 1/3 acre to mow with not much obstacles in the way (4 trees). When I first bought the property, the previous owner left me an old (and basic) Craftsman riding mower, which he had used for mowing. This sliding has even caused the mower to slide into a ditch, when I was cutting the side of the road, and it flipped over!!!!! On the Toro, however, height is controlled using a lever thats beside the speed control. Q: What are your thoughts about Kohler vs Kawasaki quality? I used to cut it with a Bobcat 48 W/B but would like a rider now. Toro 75754 Timecutter 54 in. I have been going through drive belts at a rate of 1 per season. Looks like the Cub has a stronger transmission than the Toro with the ZT2200 and the Toro has the ZT2100. Can the ZT2 transmission handle that? Im looking to spend less than 4000 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Subscribe to our mailing list and get interesting stuff and updates to your email inbox. Kohler, Cub Cadet, LCT, Yamaha, and Toro all have newer, more fuel-efficient designs. The cutting height is fully adjustable. Planted a bunch of young 5-8 trees around the property. I dont have any issues with Hustler mowers. It will give you a cut you can be proud of. Run your fingers inside the grooves of the pulleys and make sure there is no debris or rocks stuck in them. I not only look at the price, the craftsmanship, and the quality of cut but also the dealer network, ease of warranty service, and parts networks that support the product. . The TimeCutter really doesnt fit with these mowers. Ariens Edge 42. Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. Browse a wide selection of new and used Heavy Duty Zero Turn Lawn Mowers Outdoor Power for sale near you at TractorHouse.com. Thanks again. Hi Rob, Lets start with the Toro. Im looking for a new mower to handle about an acre of gently sloped (about 10 degrees in spots) yard and am seriously considering going for a ZTR mower. If she plans on being at her job for a while ask her to cost-justify the Ultima compared to the Jonsereds. Hi Larry, I like the Ariens XD if your lawn is fairly flat and youre mowing 3 acres or so. Hi Walter, The Ariens. Im already beginning to spend some coin having local vendors mow (3x now). Looking at either a cub cadet or a another Toro.we have a farm yard ,about 2 acres . Who takes the crown in this video for best stripe? It is still a very popular mower with farmers who have long ditches and large areas to mow. Thanks for your advice to buy the Ultima ZT2 50. Hi Shane, mulching blades by themselves dont do much. If you ever have any issues with it and you bought it from your local dealer you will get a lot faster service. I would like something in the 48 inch to 52 inch cut range. Ive seen it cut roadside grass two feet tall cleanly on the first pass. 2. I was looking at the exmark radius 48 but they dont offer the kawasaki engine with them, do you know anything about those engines that exmark is using in their radius mowers. For the Toro, the following are popular accessories: For the Cub, these accessories are often bought: To know more about the accessories that are commonly purchased for mowers, read this post. Hi Chris, The Ferris IS600z is a commercial mower and is really overkill for 2 acres. "This Gravely 48-inch zero-turn-radius . I couldnt be happier and you gave me some good advice last year, so thanks for that. I would I just need a residential as opposed to commerical. Both are good dependable mowers. The only reviews I can find about the Cub Cadet ZT1 state the vibration is only at low rpms. The Deere cuts well. Why? The flip=up mid-mount deck is unique and works well. Paul, Of course, durability is important. Hi Paul! One, Keep the mowing speed to no more than 5-6 mph. Anyways wanted to ask your thoughts before purchasing as you seem to be incredibly knowledgeable in this area, MyRide worth the extra money or are there other mowers out there that are a better deal in your opinion? By the way, The Gravely ZT X/Ariens IKON XD are the same price as these and I really like them also! A little more than half of it i would consider wooded. If you are paying cash, buy whichever one you like the look of most. I have about 5 acres with a few bumps but not too bad I will cut about once a week. Being disabled money isnt coming in like it used to be but my back is very sensitive so wondering if it is worth the extra cash? Ive got about two acres of mostly flat lawn at my house. I never recommend paying extra for the Kawasaki name. It gives you a much better experience if you ever have an issue with your mowers engine. If you have to sit on the seat to start the mower there is an electrical pressure switch inside the seat. I own a JD LX280, which has been a great mower, but I have been looking at a ZTR for a couple years as an addition to the JD. Based on my reading here (and other online platforms), Im pretty much in line with everyone elsereliability, durability, maintainability, reasonable cut (dont need golf course perfection! But the Toro TimeCutter HD with MyRIDE 48 in. Nationwide we are very early in the season ( I still have 2 feet of snow on the ground) so Im fairly sure that there is plenty of stock. It uses the same commercial deck they use on all the other models. Just remember, if you mow that way your mower deck can throw a baseball 600 feet so make sure all debris, kids toys, rocks, and garbage are picked up before you mow. I just visited the local Gravely dealer and looked at the ZT XL 52. Let me start with the cart. It mows really well and is a very dependable mower. When you buy the Ariens at a big box store you dont always get the same service after the sale as you do when you buy from a dealer. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, If you have to stay in your budget there is a compromise and still get the MyRide. Its a nicety, not a necessity. I will check out the Z355R. The Kubota is overpriced for what you get. The manufactures dont specify but Id guess 140-180 F. Hope youre doing well, great article by the way. The Zero may seem a little alien with large levers for left and right turn controls. The company has a commercial implement office here in Ft Worth, but they dont stock any mowers at all. Opinion please. A popular rivalry between Kubota and Cub Cadet is between the Cub Cadet XT1 LT46 and Kubota T2380. I had a guy come in and clear the wooded area, as it was heavily overgrown. 10 gauge deck, commercial ZT3100 drives, and huge tires will help this mower cut well, ride well and last a long time. I wish they didnt have so many mowers to choose from because it makes deciding that much harder. 2. Jul 19, 2020 Messages 2,205. The Toro TimeCutter ZS 4200S and Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 42 are often compared, as both residential zero-turn mowers are sold at most big name home improvement stores and advertised regularly. Heres what I like about the Bradley (link below): ZT3400 drives / 23 rear tires. The Kawasaki option does not seem to be available unless I want to order through a big box store. If you want the mower and need armrests here are the right ones: Cub Cadet Arm Rests. I know you said, walking is a pain but there is the Toro TimeMaster 30 in. The Challenger adds the option of a Deluxe seat, which I might need to smooth my rough yard, but the Edge and Challenger are probably out of my price range. Which would you recommend? 2. I know you dont recommend buying used but Im looking at a Deere Z930M with 300 hours. I managed to ride it up and down the hillside a couple of times before it died on me. I am very new into this arena and have always cut with a walk behind. Look forward to your suggestions. I have both brands and I use them all the time. My only problem with this feature is that there isnt a way to turn the lights off. The best mower in that price range for ride, cut quality, cutting speed and long life components including the drive belts is the Exmark Lazer Z X-Series. Matt loves to work with wood and stone, and landscaping is by far his most favorite pastime. Doesnt the Toro have limits on towing to 85 lbs? The IKON XL and the Toro MyRide are much better choices. The name is an old, well-respected name in the industry. 35 HP Kawasaki FX1000v (999cc) engine and 16cc Parker HTG transmission 60" triple-7-gauge fabricated steel cutting deck with top, bottom and side reinforcements 3-year limited commercial warranty (no hour limitations) and 5 year / 1,750 hour limited deck construction warranty You're shopping available inventory from Trailers N More, LLC Your site is the best, by far. That mower should be in the $2700 range and the fact you have to spend an EXTRA $160 for a hitch is ridiculous. (Its been flawless) It also has a fabricated 42-inch deck. Ive owned them over the years and my neighbor has one thats almost 20 years old it runs just as good now as it did new. Ill be as frank as possible. I simply have lost all confidence in residential quality mowers after my previous experience. 1. I guess I am torn between the Ariens Ikon 42 and the Cub ZT1 42. Be aware ZTRs even the ones in this price range are lawn mowers. If you could help me, I would be so very grateful. Even though the John Deere cuts very well I just have a problem with the price. The front half of the lawn is level, and thus can be mowed with even a basic riding mower. Paul Sikkema has been writing about snow blowers, riding mowers, and other lawn and garden equipment for over 10 years. Paul, our 1 acre lot in PA has some trees, and is a bit bumpy in spots. Ill make a small commission from the sale. The type of grass will also make a huge difference. Yes, I like the Ariens but if you put the Ariens and Country Clipper side-by-side youll go with the Clipper. The cost difference is around $1200 between the two. Red dirt sandy soil. They own the Huskee brand name. The Edge also has a pivoting front axle. A mowers engine and transmission are two of its most important components. The engines generate about 22 to 24 horsepower also depending on the grade of the model. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Charlie Victor. Well cover popular mowers, such as Zero-turn mowers, tractor mowers, and walk-behind mowers, and highlight what makes one different or better than the other. Both have heavy-duty fabricated decks and Kohler/Kawasaki engines. I personally dont like baggers because they are big, bulky, and hard to store so I mulch the leaves and then pick up whats left with a high-speed sweeper. Residential ZTRs are rated for no more than 15-degree slopes. I would expect both would hold up well for my use. Both are listed at the same price. Once again thank you for all the help and insight into the ZTR world! Flat-out, straight-line mowing its faster than the Walker. That said, for 2 acres the Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension is a good choice. The Walkers best feature is its agility when trimming. The ELS version is an Extended Life engine and advertises 50% more life than the Intek. used 2022 hustler super z 60rd for sale in new albany, ohio. Was more of a general question. Both mowers make use of 42-inch steel cutting decks, but the Toro has two front rollers while the Cub has two front and two rear rollers. Have a small hill in front of the house and the sis who back is all a slope. Durable, advanced polymer seat suspension A rubber floor mat to dampen vibrations Industry-exclusive overmolded hand grips Removable floor pan for easy deck access 17 quarter-inch deck height adjustments, including transport mode Offset front axle for precise trimming Maintenance-free sealed ball bearing spindles Premium Turf Master tire set By the way, Home Depot is not going to carry Ariens mowers. The APEX is one of those mowers that it a solid step up from the MZ61. The Cub Cadet ZT1 42 inch or 50 inch also cut well and the fabricated deck on the 50 inch is very rugged. I do my best to not mow wet grass and usually remove no more than 1 inche in a mow. They are very intense about quality and never compromised by making residential models for the masses. Scrape the underside of the deck clean with a plastic scraper or stiff milker brush when you sharpen the blades. Take care. It cuts very well and will last you a long, long time. Again, that seems too much money and I am struggling to justify spending that much. In the end, I do not think you will be disappointed with either. I like some of the stuff on the zt1, like the larger tires, the lights, my kids really like the looks of it, (they say it reminds them of bumblebee from the transformers movies), but Ive been reading about owners having problems with deck vibrations, so Im leery about getting it. If I went with the Toro, I would probably purchase it from Home Depot online. The 42 inch Model 75746 is also a good choice since you have less than 1.5 acres. I want to try a ZTR mainly because I feel like Im wrestling the steering wheel constantly and I have to back up and pull forward too much at the corners of the yard. I wanted to have beefier Transaxles. Toros mower comes with the SmartStow, enabling you to fold and store it virtually anywhere. In your case the Walker H with a rear discharge deck would be the ultimate choice. If your lawn is as wavy as the sea, you definitely should jump on a Cub Cadet ZT1. I would cut across the slope to ease strain on the hydros and would only have to drive up the slope in a few areas of the yard. How does the Ikon xd 52 stripe. Cub Cadet ZTS (steering wheel ZTR) 50 inch and larger can handle 20-degree slopes because the front steering wheels help to hold the mower on the slope. Any recommendations? What do you suggest? Most cost $8000 and up. Thanks. I dont think anyone has an IKON XL or a TORO 5075 MyRIDE for me to compare. Its well worth the extra money. I bought the 42 inch because of a few tight landscaping spots but after having it for a few years I wish Id bought the 50 inch. It gives you a slightly more even cut. Hi Chris, Quick change over to mulch or bag. Thank you so much! I was also able to drive a zt1 50 at a cub dealer but he told me I could not engage the pto as then it would be considered used. Hi Beverly, Chickens are so much fun! I see that a local dealer and Home Depot have the same mower for this. It helps the fuel last longer and the escaping vapors wont wreck the environment. Heres how operation works: The Toro TimeCutter employs the patented Toros Smart Speed Control System, and this allows the operator to choose a trim speed thats best for the area about to be mowed. Yes, here's how Do Mowers Have Titles? Hi T. Dan, Feel free to stop by anytime and tell us how the Jonsered is working out. Price-wise the Gravely is more but you get proportionately more. Yes they are expensive, but then I dont have the maintenance and cost to run. So inclined to think the Cub might be better overall for towing. By the way it was a trade-in at a local dealer where it was originally purchased and serviced. The Troy-Bilt and Cub Cadet ZT1 are the same mower except the Troy-Bilt has MTDs own good V-Twin, has a lever height adjust and doesnt have that racing bar over the engine. You are using an out of date browser. Toro is offering a $300 discount on the 2000 series so check to see if you can stack that with the $1000 discount. 42-inch Electric Zero Turn Mowers Ryobi, EGO, or Cub Cadet? When it died, I decided I didnt want to put more money into having an old mower refurbished. He did a great job and cut down a lot of the smaller trees etc. Hi Paul, I have 1 acre of land, flat, with fenced backyard and trees on the side in the front yard. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. Not too worried about that because three of my neighbors have similar topography and mow with ZTRs. Here are some of the frequently asked ones. It will easily last you 10 years or more. Trying to decide between a 54 Magnum MZ ztr Bad Boy and a Ariens Ikon X 52, any words of advise? Also some of the areas gets fairly dusty if we go a couple of weeks without rain. They both cut well and will last you a long time. This will be fairly detailed, since I read in another comment that details help you. Paul, I bought a Cub Cadet Ultima 54 inch deck ZTR. Ive used a California trimmer reel mower for the past 6 years, but want less maintenance and speed. 24.5 HP TimeCutter IronForged Deck Zero Turn Riding Mower with MyRIDE Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. I appreciate your knowledge and your site as it is a wealth of information and probably the most extensive and encompassing site out there. Thank you very much for your expertise and timely observations . Thats very helpful. Fabricated Decks Good value residential mowers Best for most people that want a mower that cuts well and will last. The alternative is the MX6050. Now I own a house and boy there so much information about lawn mowers. Do you know of any difference between the ones you get from the dealer and the big box stores? There doesnt appear to be much difference between the two The Pro has slightly bigger transmission, 1 bigger rear tires and Kohler Confidant EFI Closed Loop EZT-740 engine with 12cc Hydro-Gear ZT 3400 transmission with charge pumps. It mows very well and is the right size for one acre. I read everything you wrote about ZTRs, heck I even created a spreadsheet that shows, brand, model, engine, HP, transmission, deck type, deck size, and price. Im not sure what Sears is up to so Im not recommending their mowers until I know where the company is headed. Both have great engines. Both mowers are ideal for residential homeowners. I know the Pro Z might be a little much for a residential mower but Im willing to pay $1400 more for the upgraded mower, providing the Kohler Motor is reliable and the transmission with charge pumps will add longer life to transmissions. I also have balance challenges and some minor fine motor control issues (mild multiple sclerosis). Based on your post and previous comments I know this is going to be 1 of the 2 choices so go ahead and scroll up and pick 1 of the 3 others lol. Possible candidates would be a Toro TimeCutter HD or Titan, a Cub Cadet ZT2, or possibly a John Deere or some sort. Paul, Cub Cadet has been making ZTRs for just about as long but they didnt really get into the commercial market until 2015. A little history first. Id go visit each dealer and buy from the one you trust the most. My main wants are dependability, comfort and look of cut. Check out my article here on the Toro Titan. I am leery of ordering one from an internet seller for after-sale service and support. Nov 16, 2020 #2 . There are a ton of accessories available for tractor mowers easily converting them from mower to workhorse. You provide really good information and I feel like you put alot of thought and energy into responding to those who seek your advice. You get a lot more mower with the Ariens IKON. Since Cub Cadet is the newest and they tried to hit all the consumer pain points which includes noise, Ill have to guess the Cub Cadet is quieter.